FIGHTING FOR SURVIVAL
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Right now I am recovering from my latest foray in the quest for piscatorial excellence and to work out how this association's needs can be accommodated around MY activities with Lions International, Home affairs, Recreation and the RFDS. I will work something out ,but however I had been shuddering at the thoughts of our recently retired President knowing of his work load that I aware most of. His Farm,advocacy work, Lions president,his RSL subranch and god knows what else begs the question whether he bit off more than he could chew? I think he did ,but anyway this is all academic now. I know that out there are a throng that are extremely disppointed and they need not be.
Here is an excellent opportunity for OUR association to get "retuned" or redefine our purposes as to why we all wanted one in the first place. It is an impossible ask for anyone to try and get it right the first time, ask any other association and many of you poeple will come to realise that we're not Robinson crusoes.
The recipe for our association in echoing one of Steve Pallot's sentiments is that is we KISS {Keep It Simple Stupid}. Our man is right, and I believe it is time to break out the "jaffle" irons, put on a brew and have a good think each and every one of you,whether you may be in Victoria,Western Australia,Philipines whatever about our future . We can pinch this!! folks and make this mob of ours the way we want it to be, or at least come on for the ride my bet is you won't die of boredom. I might have to ditch a couple of activities If I have to ,to help our committee to get the "Tracks" back on our association. I think we are worth it do you?.
Here is an excellent opportunity for OUR association to get "retuned" or redefine our purposes as to why we all wanted one in the first place. It is an impossible ask for anyone to try and get it right the first time, ask any other association and many of you poeple will come to realise that we're not Robinson crusoes.
The recipe for our association in echoing one of Steve Pallot's sentiments is that is we KISS {Keep It Simple Stupid}. Our man is right, and I believe it is time to break out the "jaffle" irons, put on a brew and have a good think each and every one of you,whether you may be in Victoria,Western Australia,Philipines whatever about our future . We can pinch this!! folks and make this mob of ours the way we want it to be, or at least come on for the ride my bet is you won't die of boredom. I might have to ditch a couple of activities If I have to ,to help our committee to get the "Tracks" back on our association. I think we are worth it do you?.
hans- Posts: 23
Join date: 2008-07-05
Age: 55
Location: beachmere
FIGHTING FOR SURVIVAL
God, stuff a stoker!!!!!!
Is this it?? Out of all the current members (approx 29 )and former members who resigned this year - we get 3 or 4 people committed to fighting for the Assn's life? Come on!!!
I think its time to put up some sobering and thought provoking-points; my own opinion of course.
Seems to me even at this early stage, some are still coming to terms with the sudden change in circumstances and I understand competely. But, if this situation has everyone wallowing in ennui, then I do not hold out much hope for the Assn's survival.
I am working my keester off at the moment in private discussions with the Assn's Secretary to try and give him sufficient to be able to work with, on keeping the Assn viable. There will hopefully, be more on that in the next couple of days.
Members need to know that there is in place, a Continuing Management Committee and it is working extremely hard to keep things humming along. BUT...and I stress BUT...if there is no show of support other than from the few who have put their hands up to fight - then why the shell should anyone bother?
I have researched the Assn's situaton and also the legislation. If this chronic lack of interest continues, then why bother continung with the Assn. Its yours, its worth fighting for.
If no interest, then here is what the law allows:
The provisions of the Associations Incorporation Act 1991 (Qld) address the issue of winding up the affairs of an Assn. Read carefully and inwardly digest.
“Part 10 Winding-up
89 Voluntary winding-up
(1) An incorporated association may be wound-up by special resolution of the members passed at a general meeting called for that purpose.
(2) A copy of the special resolution shall be lodged with the chief executive within 1 month from the passing of that special
resolution.
90 Winding-up by the Supreme Court
(1) An incorporated association may be wound-up by the Supreme Court under the following circumstances, that is to
say—
(a) if the incorporated association suspends its operations for the space of a whole year;
(b) if the members of the incorporated association are reduced in number to not constitute a quorum at a general meeting;
(c) if the incorporated association is unable to pay its debts;
(d) if the incorporated association carries on any operation whereby any member thereof makes any financial gain
contrary to the provisions of this Act;
(e) if the Supreme Court is of the opinion that it is just and equitable that the incorporated association should be wound-up.
(2) An application to the Supreme Court for the winding-up of an incorporated association shall be by petition presented either by the incorporated association, or by a member thereof, or by a creditor thereof, or by the chief executive.”
It is my contention, should members elect to have this action taken, they should be aware that this could well be an irrevocable step.
Even if the Chief Executive of the OFT decides to act as an intervener (s90(2)) in lieu of the Supreme Court, I do not believe the Assn will ever be successful again in resurrecting itself.
I urge members to heed what Ian Bryant said on this particular issue on the old site.
Either fight, amalgamate or fold - these are the choices. If you fold you'll never recover from that.
The Committee has pulled up in a fishtail position, ramps down and is ready for action. How many crews are willing to mount up again??
If people are genuine in having the Assn saved now is not the time to sit back in the Stygian darkness of cyberspace, festering.
Noel McL
Is this it?? Out of all the current members (approx 29 )and former members who resigned this year - we get 3 or 4 people committed to fighting for the Assn's life? Come on!!!
I think its time to put up some sobering and thought provoking-points; my own opinion of course.
Seems to me even at this early stage, some are still coming to terms with the sudden change in circumstances and I understand competely. But, if this situation has everyone wallowing in ennui, then I do not hold out much hope for the Assn's survival.
I am working my keester off at the moment in private discussions with the Assn's Secretary to try and give him sufficient to be able to work with, on keeping the Assn viable. There will hopefully, be more on that in the next couple of days.
Members need to know that there is in place, a Continuing Management Committee and it is working extremely hard to keep things humming along. BUT...and I stress BUT...if there is no show of support other than from the few who have put their hands up to fight - then why the shell should anyone bother?
I have researched the Assn's situaton and also the legislation. If this chronic lack of interest continues, then why bother continung with the Assn. Its yours, its worth fighting for.
If no interest, then here is what the law allows:
The provisions of the Associations Incorporation Act 1991 (Qld) address the issue of winding up the affairs of an Assn. Read carefully and inwardly digest.
“Part 10 Winding-up
89 Voluntary winding-up
(1) An incorporated association may be wound-up by special resolution of the members passed at a general meeting called for that purpose.
(2) A copy of the special resolution shall be lodged with the chief executive within 1 month from the passing of that special
resolution.
90 Winding-up by the Supreme Court
(1) An incorporated association may be wound-up by the Supreme Court under the following circumstances, that is to
say—
(a) if the incorporated association suspends its operations for the space of a whole year;
(b) if the members of the incorporated association are reduced in number to not constitute a quorum at a general meeting;
(c) if the incorporated association is unable to pay its debts;
(d) if the incorporated association carries on any operation whereby any member thereof makes any financial gain
contrary to the provisions of this Act;
(e) if the Supreme Court is of the opinion that it is just and equitable that the incorporated association should be wound-up.
(2) An application to the Supreme Court for the winding-up of an incorporated association shall be by petition presented either by the incorporated association, or by a member thereof, or by a creditor thereof, or by the chief executive.”
It is my contention, should members elect to have this action taken, they should be aware that this could well be an irrevocable step.
Even if the Chief Executive of the OFT decides to act as an intervener (s90(2)) in lieu of the Supreme Court, I do not believe the Assn will ever be successful again in resurrecting itself.
I urge members to heed what Ian Bryant said on this particular issue on the old site.
Either fight, amalgamate or fold - these are the choices. If you fold you'll never recover from that.
The Committee has pulled up in a fishtail position, ramps down and is ready for action. How many crews are willing to mount up again??
If people are genuine in having the Assn saved now is not the time to sit back in the Stygian darkness of cyberspace, festering.
Noel McL

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